Friday

Forum On Lina Joy

Nothing unsaid was said at last night forum:"Malaysia, After Lina Joy: A Dialogue Lina Joy"
However I am happy to note that it was one of the rare occasion where the audience was well represented by all the races.
The discerning sharp division of opinion between our Malay brothers/sisters and the non-moslem among the audience, pervaded the atmosphere at the Hotel Armada.
The Malays, quoting liberally from the Koran, maintained that Islam came as a package. There are procedures for entering and there are procedures for leaving.
The non-moslem on their part emphasized the fundemantal rights as enshrine in the constitution. For them the decision on Lina Joy is a violation of human rights.
There were a couple of Malays, like the 3 moslem speakers on the panel, maintaining a middle ground calling for healthy dialogue to solve the problem.
One Malay even went to the extend of saying that the Shariah requirement, was only applicable in the High Court and the Court of Appeal. According to her the Federal Court had jurisdiction. As such she said the Federal Court decision was wrong.
The Muslim Organizations in Defence of Islam took the opportunity at the Forum to distribute their statement on the case. It advised that the decision should not be seen as a victory for Muslims and a loss for non-Muslims in Malaysia. It maintained that the decision should instead be seen as a rejection of an attempt to deconstruct and radically revamp the current formula.
The DAP through panel speaker Lim Kit Siang renewed its call for secular state status for Malaysia. He said a secular state should not be seen as against Islam but one that transcended religion to ensure Malaysia’s future.
Another panel speaker Lim Guan Eng described Lina Joy’s decision as one that had denied the individual a right guaranteed under the Constitution such as a right to freedom of conscience and choice of religion.
Ambiga Sreenevasan, Malaysia Bar Council President expressed her pessimism the protection of these fundamental rights following Lina Joy’s decision, however, on legal grounds.
The question of whether the decision was political, religious or legal in substance, was not directly tackled. Muslim alluded it as religious while the non-muslim implied it was political.
Ms Ambiga, on her part, maintained that it was a legal issue hijacked by the politicians. In other words politicians meddling in a legal issue, and politicians meddling in religious issue and thus causing problems to Malaysians. However in the Malaysian context, it is obvious that such meddling is a manifestation of Malay phobia of the erosion of their political dominance in the country. They not only fear losing their numbers out of Islam but also fear of onslaught of other Muslim denominations such as Shitism and other “deviationist” sects.
“Healthy dialogue” as advocated by Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim, PKR Secretary-General, should address this issue otherwise we can talk until the cows come home…

Thursday

Please Be The Judge

Dear Bloggers,

A Susan's blogger by the name of "Monsterball" has challenged me to sue him over Lucy Lee. I reproduce the blogs below and please be the judge:-

June 7th, 2007 at 12:33 am
monsterball
Susan….Please visit lucy lee site and tell me if you approve of what you see for youngsters in this blog.Thanks.

June 7th, 2007 at 12:40 am
monsterball
SUSAN…lucy lee is obviously a prostitute in LONDON.DELETE IT PLEASE!!

June 7th, 2007 at 2:03 am
lucy lee
Susan, I think you would have enough knowledge to know the difference between art and pornography and that not all naked bodies are pornographic. Monsterball, as always, is talking old balls and doesn’t know such differences.

June 7th, 2007 at 3:25 am
wits0
Hahaha…naughty Lucy, best let Susan, the Blog owner, decides. Monty, ‘em youngsters surely would know the direction in the Net to Porn sites by themselves.

June 7th, 2007 at 8:05 am
simon wee
What monsterball said about Lucy Lee could amount to defamation if it is not true. From precedents, calling a woman a prostitute is also criminal defamation if utrue.

June 7th, 2007 at 8:16 am
monsterball
simon wee..you can stuff your opinion into your mouth! I meant well for the blog owner and concern about youngsters and don’t try to be too smart. Just get me sued or shut up!lucy lee…I have seen enough pussies than you!! You think by putting out three naked young prostitutes like you is a joke?Look at your words written and your reply to the man.You are getting customers from this blog.I repeat…you are a cheap prostitute and you can give free service to simon wee.Me ….. old ball…..why it’s us that you give better services for best tips….don’t you know?

June 7th, 2007 at 8:29 am
monsterball
I am calling simon wee a pimp!! hi you cheap scat…no need lucy lee sue me…you now sue me. I repeat… ..you are a Pimp!!

June 7th, 2007 at 9:04 am
monsterball
lucy lee….You call all those three completely nude photos …STANDING JUST TO SHOW THE FIGURES …ART?Who are you trying to fool?Saying how that girl look to siok man is art?Replying to one man wanting you….cheekily is art?What shit artist are you representing Malaysia?no no no…YOU ALL ARE TRYING TO SELL YOUR SERVICES AT SUSAN’S BLOG!!…PROSTITUTES ….that what you three are.

June 7th, 2007 at 9:08 am
simon wee
Monsterball, I am only giving the side of the law as it is. Why don’t you identify yourself instead of hiding under the cloak of monsterball and see what happen. As the saying go you must have enough balls to call yourself monsterball. Identify yourself and don’t get Susan into trouble because of you who is good in calling names.

June 7th, 2007 at 9:20 am
monsterball
Everybody knows my real name and face!! Go get the details…all there and start suing or shut your braggart mouth!!

June 7th, 2007 at 9:23 am
monsterball
You are an instigator…braggart and a pimp.There you got three reasons to sue me. Like I said..my face..real name all know.Do it…or shut your mouth!!

June 7th, 2007 at 9:30 am
monsterball
You want to know me personally?Good…I will be at Summit …Secret Recipe at 1.30pm on 8th..tomorrow…smoking area. Every easy to identify me…I smoke cigars.So don’t tell me I have no balls….Now lets see you have the balls to meet me face to face.

June 7th, 2007 at 9:33 am
simon wee
Mosterball, I never talk of suing you but since you want me to do it why don’t you make it easy for me to do it. Just let me know how I can serve the papers and you can have your days in court. Knowing your name and face are not enough to sue as I also have to serve. Maybe you can really prove that I am an instigator, braggart and a pimp.
I have also gone into Lucy Lee’s site and I think you need a pair of new looking glass.

June 7th, 2007 at 9:38 am
simon wee
Monsterball at 9:30am I don’t need to know you personally. Since you invited me to sue you I will do just that and you can have your days in court, no need Secret Recipe. Just make my day as the saying goes.

June 7th, 2007 at 10:15 am
kittykat46
Haiyah…this is Susan’s blog. No need to threaten to sue here…sue there (pardon the punt Susan).
Don’t behave like the Hindu God-Muslim priest…very low class…

June 7th, 2007 at 10:26 am
simon wee
dear kittykat46, Thanks for the advise. I never threaten to sue. It was monsterball in his usual self challenging others to sue. The record is all in the blog. regards Simon Wee

June 7th, 2007 at 10:29 am
simon wee
Dear kittykat46, you should instead advise monsterball not to challenge everyone to sue him.

Tuesday

Police Pondok & Crime


Can these abandoned Police Pondok put to better use in view of rising crime...

Sunday

Persuasive Court Precedent for Jeff Ooi of Screenshots

WASHINGTON (May 16) -- A federal judge dismissed a lawsuit Wednesday against the founder of a political gossip Web site who reprinted sexually explicit material about the sex lives of two Senate aides.

Ana Marie Cox, the founder and former editor of Wonkette.com, commented on and provided links to a Web blog created in 2004 by Jessica Cutler, an aide to then-Sen. Mike DeWine, R-Ohio. DeWine lost his re-election bid last November.

Cutler's blog, called the "Washingtonienne," discussed her sex life with several men, including colleague Robert Steinbuch, DeWine's counsel on the Senate Judiciary Committee.

When Cox drew attention to Cutler's blog, Steinbuch said he was humiliated and left Washington for a teaching job in Arkansas. He sued Cutler in 2005 and last year added Cox to the suit.

Cox, who is now the Washington editor of Time.com, argued that blogs such as Wonkette cannot be held liable for material they reprint. U.S. District Judge Paul L. Friedman did not address that issue because he said Steinbuch sued too late.

"The question is whether or not he has the right to add Ms. Cox more than two years after the events in question when the statute of limitations is one year," Friedman said.

After being fired from her Senate job, Cutler moved back to New York, wrote a novel based on the scandal, posed nude for Playboy and started a Web site. The suit against her continues.

That case could help establish whether people who keep online diaries are obligated to protect the privacy of the people they interact with offline.

It is unclear when the case will go to trial. Each side is embroiled in thorny pretrial issues, demanding personal information from the other.Friedman, who expressed surprise the suit was filed, said again Wednesday he hoped both sides could found middle ground and perhaps even settled the case.

Bloggers...Take Note

WASHINGTON — Jessica Cutler, the former Senate aide whose online sex diary landed her a book deal and a Playboy photo spread but got her kicked off Capitol Hill, has filed for bankruptcy.

Cutler, a former aide to then-Sen. Mike DeWine, R-Ohio, created the "Washingtonienne" blog in 2004 and began posting racy details about her sex life with six men, including a Senate colleague and "a few generous older gentlemen" who she said paid many of her living expenses.
When the blog was discovered, Cutler was fired. She moved to New York, wrote a novel based on the scandal, posed naked and started a new website that describes herself as "a published author who jumps out of cakes for money."

Under the occupation heading of her website, it reads: "I'm freelancing."
Cutler has spent much of her time fending off a lawsuit by ex-boyfriend and fellow DeWine staffer Robert Steinbuch, who claims Cutler's blog publicly humiliated him. He is seeking more than $20 million in damages.

In court documents filed in the case Thursday, however, Cutler says she can't even pay her American Express bill, legal fees and student loans. She submitted to the judge a copy of a Chapter 7 bankruptcy petition filed in New York dated Wednesday.

The lawsuit is being closely watched by online privacy groups and bloggers because the case could help establish whether people who keep online diaries are obligated to protect the privacy of the people they interact with offline.

Cutler's bankruptcy filing further clouds the fate of a lawsuit already mired in contentious pretrial arguments. A federal judge has encouraged both sides to cooperate and perhaps even settle the case, but both sides are demanding personal information from the other and Steinbuch says he doesn't want to give a videotaped deposition for fear Cutler will put it in on the Internet.

Friday

Leaking Roofs and Falling Ceilings

Last night’s forum on “Leaking Roofs and Falling Ceilings”, as expected, put all the blames on the Government for its policy of favouring Malay Contractors for such mishaps. Their contention was that if the Malay contractors had enough knowledge and skills of the industry then such lapses would not have happen. There are enough guidelines and byelaws to ensure almost perfect buildings. It is just a matter of implementation. But they don’t and had to pass it down the Ali Baba chain.

What used to be just “Ali Baba” is now taken over by “Ali, Ali, Ali Baba, Baba, Baba”. When there is enough government contracts to go by then everything would be fine. But now with fewer and fewer government contracts available the last Baba who would have to do the job, had to cut corners in order to survive, after each level of Alis and Babas had their cuts. Also with insufficient contracts to go round, only those with the right connections would be awarded even without going through a tender process. As a result, Chinese contractors who could relied on their bumi partners for contracts are now left in a lurch and had to look for new bumi partners to survive.

There was nothing spoken in defence of the government despite the presence of two MCA speakers. There was an overwhelming condemnation of the government’s unfair treatment of other races except the Malays in government contracts. There was even calls to vote wisely in the coming general election. But who is fooling who given the “gerrymandering way” of constituency demarcation.

One participant voiced his amazement that why “Leaking Roofs and Falling Ceilings” happened only in Pak Lah’s time, whereas in Tun Mahathir’s premiership, there was no such occurrence. Tony Pua replied that its was Tun Mahathir who planted such “seeds” and now these seeds had taken root.